Avodah Zarah 039

of the Rabbinical Assembly in Israel
and the Masorti Movement

RABIN MISHNAH STUDY GROUP

Today's shiur is dedicated by Sol Freedman
in memory of his mother,
Sylvia Freedman,
Surah Sheindel Bas Luzar z"l,
whose Yahrzeit is tomorrow, 18th Tevet.
TRACTATE AVODAH ZARAH, CHAPTER THREE, MISHNAHS TWO & THREE:
If someone finds shards of statues they are permitted; [but] if one finds the form of a hand or the form of a foot they are forbidden because such things are worshipped.
If someone finds utensils and on them are drawings of the sun, the moon [or] a dragon he should take them to the Dead Sea. Rabban Shim'on ben-Gamli'el says that [drawings] on respectable [utensils] are forbidden [but drawings] on common [utensils] they are permitted. Rabbi Yosé says one should grind it and cast it to the wind or hurl it into the sea. They [the sages] said to him: "but it could become manure, and it is said, 'nothing of what has been doomed shall remain in your hand.'"
EXPLANATIONS:
1:
Mishnah 1 of our present chapter was concerned with statues and other figures of pagan worship. Mishnah 2, which we now consider, is concerned with parts of such a statue or figure.
2:
If a Jew finds shards – pieces of a a broken statue – he may use them for his own purposes: in other words he may derive material benefit from them. The reasoning is that having been broken they have lost all their potency for a pagan as an object of worship. It is even possible that a pagan destroyed the object – in a fit of peek or for some other reason. Whatever the situation may be our mishnah determines that shards of broken statues are permitted to Jews.
3:
However, a complete hand or a complete foot could certainly constitute an object of pagan worship. It matters not whether the complete limb was a part of an original statue or whether it was made by the artist in its present form. We may presume that for a pagan it could be an object of reverence.
4:
We now turn our attention to Mishnah 3. Tanna Kamma in our mishnah states that "if someone finds utensils and on them are drawings of the sun, the moon a dragon he should take them to the Dead Sea." The artistic representations mentioned are, of course, only examples of any depiction which might reasonably be assumed to have religious significance for a non-Jew. Tanna Kamma says that a Jew who finds such objects should destroy them. (Throwing them into the Dead Sea is just an example of the way such an object can be destroyed.)
5:
Over the years we have explained the technical term tanna kamma on many occasions. (See, for example,
Berakhot 031, explanation #2.) Here let us just briefly say that the term is used here to identify the otherwise anonymous sage (or sages) whose majority view is disputed by Rabban Shim'on ben-Gamli'el and by Rabbi Yosé.
6:
Rabban Shim'on ben-Gamli'el holds that the view of Tanna Kamma does not always hold good. He claims that if the utensil was a 'respectable' one – such as a piece of jewellery – then the view of Tanna Kamma holds true because such an object could well be an object of reverence. However, if the article was 'common' a Jew may assume that the figure depicted on it was only for decorative purposes. The problem with the view of Rabban Shim'on ben-Gamli'el is, of course, that there is no real criterion available for determining what is 'respectable' and what is 'common'. In the Gemara [AZ 43b] the Amora Rav has a go:
The respectable ones are those which [have the depictions] above the water [assuming, for example, that the utensil is a pitcher or a ewer]. The common ones are those which have them under the water.
His colleague, Shemu'el, understood the words differently:
Both these kinds [mentioned by Rav] are to be seen as common, but those are are upon bracelets, nose-rings and signet-rings should be seen as being 'respectable'.
The Gemara then quotes a barayta which supports the interpretation of Shemu'el:
The respectable utensils are those which [have depictions] on bracelets, nose-rings and signet-rings; the common utensils are those which have them upon kettles, pots, vessels for boiling water, sheets and towels.
7:
Rabbi Yosé takes issue with the suggestion of Tanna Kamma and says that that such objects should be destroyed by grinding them down and scattering them to the wind. The sages (who are represented in the mishnah by Tanna Kamma) retort that the ground down residue cast to the winds by Rabbi Yosé could eventually become absorbed into the ground, serve as manure (or some other useful purpose) and thus be of benefit to a Jew – which is forbidden. The only safe way is to dispose of it in such a manner that it can never be of benefit to anybody.
8:
The rest of the sages quote to Rabbi Yosé the relevant verse from the Torah [Deuteronomy 13:18]:
Nothing of what has been doomed shall remain in your hand.
The verse occurs in a passage which is concerned with the destruction of the property of a township all of whose inhabitants had been lured into idolatry:
Doom it and all that is in it to destruction: gather all its spoil into the open square and burn the town and all its spoil as a holocaust to your God. And it shall remain an everlasting ruin, never to be rebuilt. Let nothing of what has been doomed remain in your hand. [Deuteronomy 13:16-18]
For a full discussion about the 'idolatrous township' see Sanhedrin 144.
DISCUSSION:
In the previous shiur we encountered statues holding objects in their hands. The text of the Gemara [AZ 41a] in these cases is very convoluted. A literal translation would read something like this:
A staff, because [this would imply] that it rules itself under the whole world; a bird, because [this would imply] that it grasps itself under the whole world as though it were a bird; an orb, because [this would imply] that it grasps itself under the whole world as though it were a ball.
Amnon Ron'el writes:
The statue sees itself as a bird or orb above the whole world?
I respond:
No. We have here an example of euphemistic circumlocution. The Gemara turns summersaults to avoid attributing any kind of divinity or power to these figures.


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