Sanhedrin 048
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BET MIDRASH VIRTUALI
of the Rabbinical Assembly in Israel
RABIN MISHNAH STUDY GROUP
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דִּינֵי מָמוֹנוֹת בִּשְׁלשָׁה. זֶה בּוֹרֵר לוֹ אֶחָד וְזֶה בּוֹרֵר לוֹ אֶחָד, וּשְׁנֵיהֶן בּוֹרְרִין לָהֶן עוֹד אֶחָד – דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי מֵאִיר. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: שְׁנֵי הַדַּיָּנִים בּוֹרְרִין לָהֶן עוֹד אֶחָד.
זֶה פּוֹסֵל דַּיָּנוֹ שֶׁל זֶה וְזֶה פּוֹסֵל דַּיָּנוֹ שֶׁל זֶה – דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי מֵאִיר. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: "אֵימָתַי? – בִּזְמַן שֶׁמֵּבִיא עֲלֵיהֶן רְאָיָה שֶׁהֵן קְרוֹבִין אוֹ פְסוּלִין; אֲבָל אִם הָיוּ כְשֵׁרִים אוֹ מֻמְחִין, אֵינוֹ יָכוֹל לְפָסְלָן. זֶה פּוֹסֵל עֵדָיו שֶׁל זֶה וְזֶה פּוֹסֵל עֵדָיו שֶׁל זֶה – דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי מֵאִיר. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: אֵימָתַי? – בִּזְמַן שֶׁהוּא מֵבִיא עֲלֵיהֶם רְאָיָה שֶׁהֵן קְרוֹבִים אוֹ פְּסוּלִים; אֲבָל אִם הָיוּ כְשֵׁרִים, אֵינוֹ יָכוֹל לְפָסְלָן:
Civil suits are heard before three judges: each party selects one judge and both then select a third. This is the opinion of Rabbi Me'ir, whereas the sages are of the opinion that the two judges select the third one.
Each party may disqualify the other's judge. This is the opinion of Rabbi Me'ir, whereas the sages say this right limited to when they adduce proof that they are related or otherwise disqualified; but if they were valid or a licenced judge they may not disqualify them. Each party may disqualify the other's witnesses. This is the opinion of Rabbi Me'ir, whereas the sages say this right limited to when they adduce proof that they are related or otherwise disqualified; but if they were valid they may not disqualify them. EXPLANATIONS (continued):
4: 5: 6: To be continued. DISCUSSION:
Lawrence Charap writes that Jacob Neusner writes …it is a well-established principle in the legal (halakhic) documents that a rule that is not attributed to a named authority stands for all authority, and ordinarily sets the norm. One bearing a name may well be, and mostly is, schismatic (with the proviso that certain names carry within themselves signals as to normative status). I was struck by the strange layout of the three statement's in the most recent posted mishna. Is there a historical reason for laying out a statement in the Mishna, then saying, "This is Rabbi Me'ir's position; the Sages do not follow it…" in this way? It seems like a puzzling way to lay out the Sages' position.
I respond: By its very nature a study group such as ours has people joining at various times and they may well have missed something that has already been said – and sometimes has been said often! However, these technical rules can not be repeated too much, so I beg the patience of RMSG old-timers when I explain the situation once again. The Mishnah was originally intended to be a compilation that could be learned and studied only orally. That is why Rabbi Yehudah the President of the Sanhedrin who compiled the Mishnah used certain technical formulations to permit the student to draw conclusions without them having to be specifically stated, thus lengthening that material to be conned by rote. One such technical rule is as follows: When a mishnah is stated anonymously [Stam Mishnah] the view stated in it represents the undisputed halakhah. When a view is stated anonymously in a mishnah [Tanna Kamma or Sages] and is then contested by a named rabbi (as is the case in our present mishnah) this indicates that the accepted Halakhah is not according to the view of the named rabbi or rabbis. Jacob Adler has sent the following observation concerning theories of revelation: About theories of revelation – anthropocentric and theocentric – I feel inclined toward a combination of both. God's will is obviously a very different kind of thing than human will. (If we are to believe RaMBaM, we can have no positive conception at all of what God's will is like.) But still, when we are striving to learn Torah, we find that sometimes we are in a very receptive state and sometimes much less so. I am inclined to say that this receptive state is the way God reaches down to us – by putting us in a condition where we can more easily perceive God's messages. I respond (briefly): I do not think that when we, as individuals, study Torah that we are vouchsafed revelation! Revelation is something quite distinct from study. Revelation involves the initiation of a text, a message, a command; study can only be of an already existent and accepted text. However, to clarify: I do think that there is a difference between a theocentric conception of revelation and an anthropocentric one – and, as I have said, it has nothing to do with the study of the texts and their interpretation. The difference lies in how we understand communication between man and God to be effected. The traditional view of revelation is theocentric: God, in some manner, inspires people with His direct word. The anthropocentric conception would see man – individually and collectively – as attempting to comprehend the Divine will. In either case, when the texts which purport to come from God are accepted by the collective conscience of the Sages and the people as being of Divine origin they do, ipso facto, become normative and binding. I hope this helps. |