Berakhot 029
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BET MIDRASH VIRTUALI
of the Rabbinical Assembly in Israel
RABIN MISHNAH STUDY GROUP
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If one were reading [it] from the Torah when the time for its recital arrived – if there is conscious intention one has fulfilled the duty, otherwise not. Between the paragraphs one may offer a greeting and respond to another out of respect; in the middle of the paragraphs one may offer and respond to [a greeting] out of fear: this is the view of Rabbi Me'ir. Rabbi Yehudah says that in the middle [of a paragraph] one offers [a greeting] out of fear and responds to one out of respect; between the paragraphs one offers out of respect and responds to everybody [without hesitation].
DISCUSSION:
I have received several messages from stalwart contributors which contain points that I think should be brought to everyone's attention. While (obviously!) I do not agree completely with every point raised, I will refrain from comment in order not to deflect attention from the main arguments.
David Bockman refers to the following passage that I wrote: I am also very wary of miracles – especially in the Talmudic age! Why is "the miraculous hair-whitening … zaken-ization [that] took place overnight" not even hinted at in the account in the Talmud of Eretz-Israel if it is so important and meaningful?? Lastly, unlike the priesthood, the rabbinate does not require Divine sanction. I, too, don't believe in these types of "miracles", from a rational and scientific point of view (I studied lots of physics). But I have always wondered why people want or need to talk about them. Is it because they were pre-enlightenment and didn't know any batter, or do these stories fulfill societal functions, entrenching some power structure or establishing a regimented hierarchy in leadership or authenticity? The fact that this "myth" of the aging/hair whitening doesn't appear in the Yerushalmi lets us know that for some reason, the Bavli sees this story as useful. I conjecture here, that in Eretz Yisrael the hierarchy was already established, and the people were close to the event (in time). It's only when hundreds of years have gone by and the mists of time shroud the original event that people can write of "miracles". And the rabbinate has divine sanction (asher yihye bayamim ha-hem [Deuteronomy 17:8-13]). But, after the fact, for people living hundreds of years later, "just the normal workings of society" may not seem like an edifying "reason" for leadership. See, for example, stories in the American mythos about George Washington (Cherry tree, dollar across Potomac) or other, older, myths. Ed Frankel writes: I believe it is Kehati's commentary, and I don't know his source, that notes that Yir'ah is even more than respect, but a fear of death. This would be in keeping with a later mishnah in which there is a differentiation between the treatment of foreign kings and of Jewish ones, in the event they are with us at time of Shema. It also relates nicely to the Talmudic parable in which a rabbi is chastised by a non-Jewish authority for his failure to greet [someone] at the risk of his life. I don't have the Talmud handy at my computer as I write, but my reading of it is that the Talmud regarded that rabbi as foolhardy, even if he came out of the incident well and alive. Richard Friedman also writes:
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